Remembering Dallas When It Was Dallas: Follow up

A few weeks back I posted asking readers to post their memories of Dallas back when it was still a “small” town and got some great responses.

Reader Barclay Kleese remembered:

My Grandfather started a radio show called the Early Birds. It aired every morning. Kind of a music, skit kind of thing. I was only six or seven at the time, but I remember going down with my Dad, who played sax and clarinet on the show.
I have some great memories and some pics.
Remember the Creek on Greenville Ave. Pappy’s Showland. Louanns. Open air music at the Shell at Fair Park. Streetcars downtown. The peanut shop downtown…ahh what a smell. Cowboys playing the Texans at the Cotton Bowl. 50 cents to sit in the end zone. Saw the big tornado from my front yard. Elvis came to town. We had no air conditioner….fans. Ice Box and the guy would chip us off a piece to suck on. Central only went to Richardson. Then you had to get on Greenville (Hwy 5) to go any further north. And Central wasn’t all that busy. Lovers Lane was really lovers’ lane.
Thanks for the memories. TV went off at night…..that is when you finally GOT klif.gifa TV. You could drive by the KLIF station and look up and see the DJ.

Great stuff. Most a bit before my time (hint – I was born the year of the great tornado), but I do remember the Fair Park Band Shell and the KLIF studios in their distinctive triangular building at the intersections of S. Central, Commerce and Jackson St. as shown in this picture.

Reader Shirley adds this great stuff:

I was 19 years old, it was late 1955…I had just hit Big “D” from a small East Texas town. WRR ruled the airwaves from 10pm to midnight with that “race music” as it was called and all the young’uns from 13 to 25 could not wait to turn on the “Kool Fool” Jim Lowe at night. KLIF ruled with the top 40 format and became the top radio station in the USA. Our radio’s were on KLIF until Lowe’s Kat Karavan at night, then back to KLIF.

I have posted some stuff about Dallas and the 50’s on my web page: dance, clubs music etc.

Does anyone remember the “sitting on the pole” stunt KLIF did in around ‘57 ?

Oh! by the way semitough, sounds like your dad and I might be around the same age, yep, write a little blurb about Ruby’s Vegas Club as well as Lucas B&B next door, also the It’ll Do Club.

have your Dad check out www.belovedcity.com

I can’t remember WRR as anything other than a classical station. I do remember KLIF which ruled the radio in Dallas until KNUS and the newfangled FM stations came online in the early 70s. I remember Dad talking about the “It’ll Do Club” but not Lucas B&B. Unfortunately we lost him in 1983 before I understood the value of capturing all his stories in some format or other. I’m only left with dim memories of snippets of stories across the years. Thanks Shirley for bringing those sweet memories to share.

And last, but definitely not least, intertube friend Scot over at businessgolf, the man who got this trip down memory lane started writes:

I remember Louann’s (the first place I went to NOT learn to dance), the 50 cent Cowboy Seats and the tornado I do remember with a vague memory of Central ending at the Mink Farm where TI is now. I do remembering sitting in the back seat of my Dad’s 1950 Chevy Deluxe taking a full day trip to Lake Texoma when I was five… The chipped ice and no air was around the we quit walking five miles to school barefoot in the snow. But I love those memories.

Uh hey buddy, you forgot “uphill both ways”. 🙂 I don’t ever remember 50 cent seats at the Cowboy games, but I do remember attending a Pokes-Vikings game before Texas Stadium got all luxury suited up. There was an open space between the upper deck and the roof that allowed air to flow, the way I.M. Pei intended it. My best friend was dating a girl who danced on the Bryan Adams Belles, who were performing at halftime. We went out afterward and she set me up with one of her drill team friend. Sitting in the front seat with a girl I barely knew while they made out heavily in the back seat. One word-awkward. I wonder if somewhere she’s remembering that awkward night too? If so, that would really be awkward.

lee-park.jpgI also remember going to free afternoon concerts in Lee Park with cousin Beefy then catching a movie at the old Inwood Theater in the evening. I also remember my first real rock concert, Leon Russell and local great Johnny Nitzinger at Dallas Memorial Auditorium circa 1971. None of our parents would let us drive downtown so we had to catch a bus. I’m not sure which was worse. I remember drive in movies at the Gemini with cousin Becky who was always trying to fix me up with some friend’s little sister. She was a few years older and thought it was “cute”. Me? Not so much.

I remember weekend trips down Hawn Freeway to the relatively new lake, Cedar Creek Reservoir, and finally moving down there full time in 73. Which of course forced me to drive back to Dallas on weekends for nights at Travis Street Electric Company, Hangar 19, The Bellringer and other discotheques who’s names have faded into oblivion.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to contribute. Feel free to leave additional memories in the comments and I’m sure we’ll revisit this topic in the not too distant future.

Responses to “Remembering Dallas When It Was Dallas: Follow up”

  1. businessgolf Avatar

    Semi,
    We have had to have been in the same room at very same time at some of these places at the because it sounds like you were at every place I was seeing the same thing you were seeing…this just has to be too weird. These stories just keep churning stuff up that was fun.

    The ol Travis Street Electric Company…WOW! Every John Travolta wannabe hit that joint. Yep, the club scene in Dallas was cooking back then…I remember Poor David’s Pub with it was Poor David’s Pub and Stephen Stills walked in and started playing. I was the only person in the place who knew who he was.

    OH, and the memories of using a fake ID to get into the Lakewood Bar and Grill. I actually remember when you could park right in front of the Greenville Ave Bar and Grill. Then of course the Cave downtown which was scarier than any Horror House anyone could produce.

    Of course there was the summertime drive out to Lavon to jump off the train trestle before a train came or the sheriff …Yes, things were crazy back ‘In-The-Day’. Of course I did all of this driving around on a $2 dollar tank of gas in a 1966 VW Bug listening to KLIF on the AM…things really have changed…

    I really look forward coming over here an reading more about what went on in Dallas when it was fun to go out… Hope more people provide more about what they remember about Dallas…this is fun reading.

    1. Donna (Jones) Stanford Avatar
      Donna (Jones) Stanford

      I actually worked at Travis Street Electric Company the night the law changed from 21 to 18. I was only 17 but worked there with a fake ID! Had so much fun working there. On our nights off we would go to the Electric Circus or Marlows. Loved the disco scene in Dallas. Graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School in 1973.

      1. Jess Avatar

        Donna it was a great time in Dallas..l probably saw you at Travis St.Elect Company. My Late Brother Tony was the Djay at the Electric Circus on Gaston..And his buddy Whiskey was the Djay at Travis St..it was when we were young n crazy. Peace Jz

      2. Skip Avatar
        Skip

        I played drums to the records, with Tony as DJ and a go-go girl, on the stage at the Electric Circus on Gaston, for a couple of years in the 70’s.

      3. donna Avatar
        donna

        Jess I remember Whiskey at Travis street, he was a close friend, had a lot of fun! I also remember Tony from electric company, I believe he dated or wanted to date my best friend Jan! When she would walk in the door, he would put spotlight on her and play Pretty Woman!

    2. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      So excited I found this site. I went to Lou Ann’s in 1969 and Travis Street Electric Company regularly in 1973. It was the first club I went to when I could legally drink. We only referred to it as Travis St but I found an entry in an old address book with Travis St Electric Company and 4527 Travis St as address. There were also names of people I met there but have long forgotten. Online I found a pic and story about live music at Travis St Electric Company regularly 1975. The club I went to only had a dj and a dancer. I didn’t go there in 1975. Also not sure it was same address. Can anyone shed some light on this?
      I drove to Travis St and Knox a few days ago boy has it changed in 52 years. A high rise is being built where the old club was. Another not so cool memory is me having an accident at Knox and Cole St after leaving the club. Made a trip to Parkland Hospital for minor injuries but my 1969 Ford Maverick didn’t survive.
      After Travis St, I hung out at Library Club on Upper Greenville near Northwest Hwy. Drove by there too but don’t remember exact cross street. Went to the Point a few times but have no memory of what street it was on. North Dallas somewhere. Anyway a lot of fun times a fun remembering Dallas back then

  2. semitough Avatar

    Speaking of gas. My stepfather bought a Gulf service station in 1970. It was at the corner of Marsalis Ave and I-35, R.L. Thornton freeway. His brother owned the Mobil across the freeway. On opening day in May of 1970 gas was 28 cents a gallon.

    Poor David’s Pub? Been there. Lakewood Bar & Grill? Oh yeah. Never made The Cave downtown, but did hang out a bit in a place called TV Bar. It was on Pacific just west of S. Central. They never asked for an ID. Dark, smoky, 1950’s vinyl and chrome kind of place. And the funny thing is, I don’t remember there being a TV anywhere in the place. They tore it down in the 80’s and turned it into a parking lot.

    1. keita crow Avatar
      keita crow

      i used to work a the electric circus keita crow

      1. Debbie A. Avatar
        Debbie A.

        wow…i used to work at the Electric Circus too (on Gaston Ave.), it was later bought out and renamed KC Disco after the new owner who I worked for as well…

      2. Jack Taylor Avatar
        Jack Taylor

        Hey there Keita Crow are you from Wills Point ? Do you remember any Anderson boys

      3. Donna Stanford Avatar
        Donna Stanford

        My friend Jan and I would go to Electric Circus on our nights off from Travis Street. The dj had a crush on my friend Jan, I can’t remember his name! Our daughter at Travis Street was Whiskey!

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  4. shirley Avatar

    Semi-tough so glad you enjoyed my memories from the ’50’s. I am very sorry to hear that you lost your Dad…and at such a young age. I have lost many friends the past few years…at my age it is just a fact of life…but never easy…I spend a great deal of time talking to my peers about writing down memories…especially those that cover those years that were transitional ones. Dallas was a very hip and special little city in the ’50’s.

    Yeah!…you could see a Cowboy game at the cotton bowl the first year they played…pre-season if I remember correctly for .50 end zone…$l.00…fifty yard line…The pokes were so bad the first 4 or 5 years…they almost had to give tickets away…but my family became fans the first year and have remained so until this day…eventhough…I have not lived in Dallas since the late ’60’s…My first car was a dandy 1953 green and white chevy. Never had more than 4 or 5 gallons of gas in it the 10 years it provided me with vir- tually trouble free transportation. Keep encouraging the folks to share their priceless memories.

    1. Lucy Gonzales Avatar
      Lucy Gonzales

      I loved Electric Circle I had a fake I’d also graduated Woodrow Wilson 1975.

  5. Jerry Avatar
    Jerry

    I remember visiting my great aunt, who lived at the White Plaza hotel downtown for many years. Walking the streets of BIG D as a kid and looking into the windows of all the shops including Neiman-Marcus. I also remember the smell of the exhaust from the city busses that ran daily downtown. I always liked Dallas better than Houston because Dallas had better radio stations (like KLIF, KBOX). Dallas has always been a clean city compared to most of the others in this state. Still one of my favorites.

  6. Kay Anderson Loucks Avatar

    Does anyone have any information about the old Lucas B & B Cafe? I used to go there with my parents in the early 50’s when I was a student at Woodrow. I was just thinking about it and wondered when it went out of business?

    1. Cynthia Lucas Avatar
      Cynthia Lucas

      It was closed in the spring of 1989.
      Regards,
      Cynthia Lucas
      Daughter of Pete Lucas Sr.

      1. Robert Howard Avatar
        Robert Howard

        What did the ,b and b mean

  7. Don Ross Hillin Avatar

    who was the grandfather who started The Early Birds in Dallas on radio.?

  8. Barbara Avatar
    Barbara

    I just found this web site, this is great. I loved dancing at Lou Anns, the “push” was in at that time, wish there were other places like Lou Anns now. In the 60’s for a little slumming which was harmless in those days my girlfriends and I would go to the Spot 77 on Harry Hines, listen to Big Blue Diamond by someone named “Gene” and have a great time. I grew up in Farmers Branch and remember the tornado of the’50’s, my little sister was visiting our cousins in Dallas, she was under a coffee table when it hit the house next door. That house also was a night club in the 70’s, can’t remember the name of it.

    1. Bill Lynch Avatar
      Bill Lynch

      Gene Summers!

      1. Martha Hill Avatar
        Martha Hill

        I worked at the spot 77 for 6 years and left to run a small bar on Denton Dr for Gene Summers. It was a great club for entertainment. Gene’s band was the regular house band, but we also had good entertainers from time to time. Had the Coasters, Jimmy Velvet that sang Blue Velvet and other groups of the 50’s and 60’s, until Sid King and the Kings men group started.

    2. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      Did anyone go to The Cellar in downtown Dallas? It was a cool place in late ‘60’s for live music. As teenagers we used to go to The Circle at Harry Hines. Hung out at liquor store parking lots and paid some a few bucks to get us alcohol. Crazy times

  9. Linda Mackey Avatar
    Linda Mackey

    I have just found this site–some years after previous comments. But so thrilled to read it. I moved from Tulsa OK in 1970 to Big D with no job. I found Dallas to have the friendliest people in the world. I got a day job at Northpark Mall and started going to clubs with a neighbor friend. About a year later I got a part time job at night at TRAVIS STREET ELECTRIC COMPANY. I was the girl at the front door who checked ID’s and took the money. I loved it and remember so many good times. I remember the Electric Circus (of course), Mother Blues, Gerties, the Cave, the Cellar, the Players Club, Sneaky Petes and so many others. I remember the free concerts in Lee Park. And Turtle Creek was beautiful. I remember the beautiful homes on Swiss Avenue, and in Highland Park. I rode the bus a lot to downtown. Dallas had a great concert venue. I saw many big named bands like the Roling Stones, Chicago, Led Zepellin, Jimi Hendrix, Robin Trower, ZZ Top, Rush, Traffic, Leon Russel (from Tulsa) and so many more. The best radio station was KZEW. Never heard about the pole sitter in ’57 but there was another DJ–James Dean–forgot what radio station who did that stunt in ’71 or ’72. Remember Love Field was “the airport”; Bachman Lake & Whiterock Lake was the place to “cruise”. Sanger Harris downtown had the most beautiful window displays at Christmas. Remember Kellers Drive In had the best hamburgers. Cattlemens Steakhouse had the very best steaks in town. Campisi’s Egyptian Room had the best lasagna. Ianni’s had the best stuffed mushrooms. I remember there were a lot of Drive In Movie places. You could see a movie real cheap. My friend had a 66 Mustang convertible and we drove around Big D a lot. Central Expwy was outdated even then–lots of traffic but the best way to get to downtown quick. Then LBJ was built and remember it didn’t have a lot of traffic jams till some years later. Then DFW airport was built and after it opened my friend and I rode around the whole airport on the passenger trolley. It was nearly empty–hardly anyone there. Then some years later, saw the Delta crash at the end of the runway while we were driving on SH114. Remember when SH183 was 2 lane asphalt. Remember when Plano & McKinney were just small towns. I cried when they demolished Texas Stadium–lots of good memories there watching the Cowboys. I live in Tulsa now and miss Big D a lot. Thanks for the memories!

    1. Glenda Johnson Avatar
      Glenda Johnson

      Linda Mackey…….I bet you knew Whiskey…..he was the DJ for a long time in…..I think 70-71. I use to hang out there all the time. Three Dog Night walked in and the manager Phil Ware had a party at his place at the Village Apt. So many wonderful memories.
      I’m still in Dallas and remember all the clubs you mentioned. We must be close in age as I was about 21 – 22.
      When I read your notes, I just went back into time as I saw the same concerts, ate at Cattlemens all the time and cruised around White Rock Lake.
      Yep Remembering Dallas when it was Dallas. Thanks for going down memory lane here. So many good time.

      Glenda Johnson

      1. Donna Stanford Avatar
        Donna Stanford

        I worked there as well when Whiskey was the DJ. And I believe Dave Gray was owner. Had a blast growing up in Dallas.

      2. noisilycrispy8144ceab4e Avatar
        noisilycrispy8144ceab4e

        When I went to Travis St 1973-74 and Library Club 74-75 the popular dance was The Bump. My friend from Taylor Publishing Co accompanied me to Travis St on Ladies Night and we went on weekends too. We watched Soul Train and practiced The Bump and other dance moves in her living room. Soul and Funk was popular. Don’t know what radio station I listened to.
        I knew a dj from Travis St but don’t remember his name. He lived in apartment with a guy I saw for a bit from Travis St. Don’t remember dancer’s name. She had blonde shoulder length hair that was layered. Cute and could play the tambourine and move to the beat.

    2. Becky Gonzales Avatar

      Does anyone remember a young lady named something like Tralita Nell.? If I’m not mistaken her parents owned a club in the early 70’s. Not sure if they were Italian or if the club was italian. They may have relocated to Waco later on.

    3. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      Linda I have some of the same memories as you. Used to visit relatives in Dallas 1953-64 and we moved to Irving may 1964. Pre Irving Mall, DFW Airport and LBJ. I remember going to State Fair, drive ins – The 183 and Park Plaza in Irving. Apollo in Dallas in Loop 12. I remember going to drive ins with cousins and see Elvis and Ann-Margaret in Viva Las Vegas, all the James Bond Movies and many others. Many concerts- Led Zeppelin, CCR, Chicago, Elvis 1974, James Brown. I’m sure I’m forgetting some.
      I remember Big Boy Hamburgers, KFC when it was new. Whataburger has always been my favorite. Grew up in Corpus Christi and it was a treat to go to first Whataburger. My dad knew the owner. Back then they sold burgers and bags of chips in plain white bags. No dining room. Very tiny place.
      As for night clubs, The Cellar, Lou Ann’s Travis St, Library Club and the Point were my hangouts. Maybe I saw you there. Great memories

      1. noisilycrispy8144ceab4e Avatar
        noisilycrispy8144ceab4e

        I made a reply earlier that came up with a crazy name. I talked a bout Travis St, The Bump, Soul Train, and dancer at Travis St

      2. noisilycrispy8144ceab4e Avatar
        noisilycrispy8144ceab4e

        Name is Debbie. Not Noisily crispy… whatever else

    4. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      I forgot… my mom lived on Swiss Ave 1939. The house burned. It’s now a parking lot across from Dallas Theological Seminary. My parents and grandparents have a Dallas history dating back to early 1900’s. My great grandparents moved to Kemp Tx southeast of Dallas in 1880. My grandmother went to Bonnie Parker’s funeral… the infamous Bonnie and Clyde.

    5. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      Klif was the radio station in my time. I think there was a d j named Eddie Rabbit. Great music in the 60’s and 70’s. I looked up In a Gadda Davida and The Doors Light My Fire. I still like listening to it loud and windows down on the car.

  10. Shirley Avatar
    Shirley

    Gosh…can’t believe this thread is still alive. Thank goodness it is. It is so sweet for an old timer like me to feel such a kinship with all of the different memories posted here which are still vivedly fresh and familiar to me after more than fifty years. In an earlier post someone asked about Lucas B&B resturant on Oak Lawn. I lived just down the street from this great eating place while working at Love Field for Delta Air lines…This period of around 56-68. I knew {Pete Lucas who’s family owned B&B. Our crowd always headed for B&B after all the clubs closed. It stayed open all night and the radio DJ’s and off air personnel hung out there as well as local musicans, strippers and some mobsters. Pete was always there and saw to it that the best breakfast and coffee was served and at reasonable prices. The wait staff was great and always decked out in freshly starched uniforms with fresh hair do’s and manicured fingernails. Pete Lucsas furnished the hair salon, great nails and fresh uniforms for all his wait staff. Jack Ruby’s joint “The Vegas Club’” was next door…but he and Pete did not get along and Ruby was not welcome in B&B after he and Pete had a run in over an ally way that ran between the two clubs. Las Vegas and New York City had nothing on Dallas during these years. An old ex-gambler from Dallas helped develop Vegas into the gambling Meca it became. Dallas was known for it’s class and the wealthy and famous of the world traveled to shop at NM. All you native young Dallasites…Be proud always of your special HOME TOWN.

    1. Cynthia Lucas Avatar

      Hi Shirley – I am Pete Lucas Sr Daughter Cynthia,. Thank you for the kind words about my Dad Pete Lucas Sr. You are wonderful. Dallas is a wonderful city and we should appreciate the history of the positive. You are wonderful for the kind words of the past reflections of Lucas B&B.

      1. James Wood Avatar
        James Wood

        What does the B&B mean in the name of the restaurant?

  11. Steve C Avatar
    Steve C

    Cynthia,

    “Jr” and I were friends as well as the waitresses Smokey, Alma, and Betty. I loved the place and ate there almost everyday. Met Governor Clements there one Sunday when Smokey said “I want to introduce you to someone behind you” and it was the Governor. He asked how I liked the “ham steak and eggs with cheese” and I told him “no better anywhere”. Junior always came out and greeted me when he was there. I know Smokey’s husband died right before they closed ans she took it very hard. She was talking about moving to Alaska after that. She was a very special person and we got a kick out of watching Betty react when a rude customer was at her counter (LOL).
    It was a special time in my life and I miss B & B as it was my “second home” after the club scenes and my staff’s at lunch.

    1. James Wood Avatar
      James Wood

      does anyone know what the B&B stood for in the name?

      1. JoAnn Avatar
        JoAnn

        Does anybody remember the Electric Circus on Gaston Avenue? Or any of the band members there?

      2. Cynthia Lucas Avatar
        Cynthia Lucas

        Better food Better Service

      3. Debbie Avatar
        Debbie

        Yes Joann, I worked at the Electric Circus as a cocktail waitress and continued on there a little while when it was renamed KC Disco after the new owner

  12. Bill C Avatar
    Bill C

    Packards, Cafe Dallas, Elan later TYC. Nick’s Uptown on Lower Greenville. The three B’s at European Crossroads ( Bachalor, Begger and Bellringer.) No.3 Lift and Clicks at European Crossroads. The Point at Shadybrook and NW Hwy.

    1. Glenda Johnson Avatar
      Glenda Johnson

      Bill, I remember all those clubs. I used to live off NW Hwy so I used to go all those clubs. Oh those were the days. I had so much fun in the 70s!

    2. Debbie Avatar
      Debbie

      Belle Star, Cowboy, No Whar But Texas….

  13. boblitton Avatar

    I am glad to have happened on your blog today. I was born in Dallas in December 1939 and grew up there, and spent most of my adult life returning to Dallas for brief periods. Spent my earliest years on Noble Avenue near North Dallas High School and my teen years near Casa Linda Plaza. I have some fond memories and some bad memories of life there, but I am sure that would be the case for any town anywhere. Like you, I neglected to get many concrete memories from my mother before she died, but I did retain enough to write some blog posts about our experiences together. You might enjoy reading them at boblitton.wordpress.com: the two primary ones are “Meditation for Mother’s Day” (5/11/2014) and “Mother” (5/09/2015), which of course contain Dallas-related anecdotes. I also wrote a post about “Favorite Bars” which contains two photos from a day at the Quiet Man pub on Knox Street back in 1970 which has drawn much Internet attention. Check’em out.

    1. Cynthia Lucas Avatar
      Cynthia Lucas

      Quiet Man Pub owned by Nick Farley. My family loved that guy. Aft4er this pub he became business partner with my brother Pete Lucas Jr at the Lucas B & B downstairs in the old banquet rooms.

      1. Cynthia Lucas Avatar
        Cynthia Lucas

        the Bar was called the NFL Nick Farley Lounge. This placed was well loved. They had Irish Bands and quite a lot of Irish citizens.

  14. Roy Gilliland Avatar
    Roy Gilliland

    I remember going to Gerties and listening to Slip of the Wrist, Krackerjack, Wherewolves, etc. I remember Larry somebody who was the manager with a cool apartment like an A-frame house above Lemmon and Turtle Creek.

  15. Mike Craig Avatar
    Mike Craig

    I worked at 106 south Harwood for the Dallas Police in 1971 when “Aunt Bee Kemi was the Telephone clerk and Chief Frank Dyston brought Dallas into the modern age hiring hte first Black Police Officer and telling the guys not to wear “cowboy boots” to watch. He, I am sure, paid a price. Being a boy in the girl telephone work one of those of “patrol” referred to me as “one of the hens”. I didn’t mind. Aunt “B” and “The Chief” were bigger than life Texans I will never forget.

  16. Shirley Packenius Avatar
    Shirley Packenius

    My name is Shirley and I grew up in Dallas, in the 50’s. I live in Washington state now but will always be a Dallasite. I remember so many things thru the years but long to hear from some of the people who frequented the Keynote Club, where I worked from ’64 to ’82 (the club was at 3 locations during this time period, Cole Ave, then Cedar Springs, then Marsh Ln.) I know that there has to be lots of people who share memories of this place and time, it was simply the place to go in the seventies, the Cedar springs years.

    1. Nikki Menees Avatar
      Nikki Menees

      Hi Shirley! I’m Nikki Menees and worked with you at the Keynote! That club was quite an education for the shy girl I used to be. So many great memories and friendships from that time. Haven’t been shy since!! I’ve recently been trying to find out what has happened to all the wonderful people that helped me grow. Fantastic finding you on here.

      1. Barbara Avatar

        Hi, Nikki. Can you share more memories of Keynote? What was the address on Cedar Springs? We had so much fun there. I am trying to visualize the setting.

      2. Douglas Klug Avatar
        Douglas Klug

        i played drums at keynote who is the owner and son I slept at the owner’s house and sister was the waitress i was performin for alan dryman call me 310-204-9027 drummer Doug 2009 at Yahoo.com please call im tryin to find keynote people

      3. Steve Avatar
        Steve

        I know you posted years ago, but hopefully you’ll read this. I used to hang out at the Keynote. It was a great club. I remember some of the bartenders. Eddie, Jan and others whose names I don’t recall. I remember Jackie was a terrific lady. I was there when the club was on Cedar Springs and then Marsh Lane. I recall the bands singer was Bill Lucas, but he left and another band came around. Would love to know what became of these people.

    2. Douglas Klug Avatar
      Douglas Klug

      do you remember me SHIRLEY PACKENIUS i was drummer for alan dryman from newyork glasses peg-g-y reeves shelly from red river guitarist all musicians from keynote my dear

    3. Chris Avatar
      Chris

      Hello! I came to Dallas in late 1970 as a flight attendant with Braniff. I was 20. On the eve of my 21st birthday, my “older” girlfriends got me into the Keynote Club. I had never been to a nightclub before. At midnight, when I turned 21, they announced that I was sitting at the bar and was now 21. Every man in the club came by and gave me a kiss! Such a great memory.

    4. Ken Fine Avatar
      Ken Fine

      I used to go to the Key Note on Cedar Springs in 1973. I was in radio and loved that place. I thi k a guy named Don Jacoby had a band and preformed there, then.

    5. Cosmo Avatar
      Cosmo

      I went to the Keynote quite often in 76 and 77. They had a band playing but I don’t recall the name. I know the singer was Bill Lucas. I miss the bartenders who were there. Jan and Eddie.

  17. Norma Avatar

    Love all the news about Dallas. Racking my brain for the name of the club in the 70s in oak lawn/cedar springs area. Can anyone help? Thanks

    1. Cynthia Lucas Avatar
      Cynthia Lucas

      Norma, Was it Mother Blues?

  18. Barbara Avatar

    I am trying to find out the name of a club I went to in the cedar springs/oak lawn area. We had a lot of fun but cannot remember the name. Could it be Keynote?

  19. James W. Harris Avatar

    I was born in Florence Nightingale Hospital on August 14, 1946. The baby boom had just gotten underway after the end of World War II. The hospital could not accommodate all the ladies expecting babies, so according to my mother, she was placed on a guerney in the hall and waited for the delivery room to open up. Of course there was no air conditioning and the temperatures, according to Mom were in the high 90’s low 100’s. we tend to,take air conditioning for granted to day.

    My parents bought their first house on Penrose St. across the street from the Greenland Hills Methodist Church. It was a 2 bedroom 1 bath house with a detached garage. They paid $1,800 for the house. There are pictures of me in a bouncy chair in the backyard of that house. In the background, you can clearly see a dairy farm. At the end of the street, there was a trolley which would take you downtown for one transfer. I believe the fare was $.10. Greenville avenue was 2 blocks away. the Granada theater was close by. I attended Stonewall Jackson which was and is on Mockingbird Lane. I would walk to,school most days because it was only a short walk. I recall one day, my Mother took us to the A&P on Greenville Ave. a few doors down from the Granada Theater. There was a magician there by the name of Mark Wilson who performed. He later went on to become a famous magician on TV and in Las Vegas.

    In 1952, my family moved to Malcolm Ave. between Skillman and Abrams. There was a nine hole golf course across Abrams called Bob-O-Links Golf Course. That is where I learned to,play golf by caddying. We would also wade down the creek that ran through the course and catch crawdads. On the Saturdays, we would go either the Wilshire Theater on Mockingbird or the Granada Theater on Greenville for the kid’s matinee. You would see two serials and a film for $.50. Our Mom’s would always pony up the $.50 to,get us out of the house for 4 hours. After I began playing golf, my Dad decided to take up,the game. We would go to a place called Hardy’sPitch and Putt on Lovers Lane near Greenville (and Louann’s). There was an assistant pro there who would play nine holes on the executive course with all comers using a family sized Dr. Pepper bottle wrapped with tape. He never lost. His name was Lee Trevino.

    In the early 50’s, there was terrible drought in the Dallas area. We were not allowed to water our yards. Dad would purchase 5 gallon jugs of water three times a week for drinking and cooking purposes. I remember walking all the way across White Rock Lake. Like most boys, I,was into baseball. One of the Dads would take us to games at Burnett Field where the Dallas Eagles played. In 1957, the Eagles had a first baseman who,was just 19 years old. He seemed to be able to stretch from first base to third with no effort. However, he was black and when the Eagles travelled to ‘Shreveport for a game, he stayed home because Shreveport had segregated hotels. The first baseman’s name was Willie McCovey.

    I went to high school at St. Mark’s School of Texas. My family moved from Malcom to Ridgetown Circle near the intersection of Preston Road and Forest Lane. The school was great. classes were small and the teachers really got to,know their students. The only problem was it was all boys. We would date the Hockadaisies who were attending their new school on Forest Lane. The was a band at the school called the Marksmen. They were into blues even though the Beatles were becoming extremely popular at the time. They would play pretty regularly at Louann’s. The lead singer was Boz Scaggs and the lead guitarist was Steve Miller. There was another singer who was becoming well known in the area, his name was Michael Murphy. We had a drama club at the school. One day one of my football teammates said he was going to join the club and try to get in a play. He did and got a key part in a play called the Caine Mutiny. We went opening night and were astounded. Shy and retiring around us, he took over the stage and dominated the show. His name was Tommy Lee Jones. My father joined Glen Lakes Country Club. He and I would play golf there on the weekends while my brother fished in the ponds on the property.

    I remember getting in our brown Chevrolet station wagon and going downtown. The Southland Life Building had just been completed and we’re headed downtown to visit the observation deck on top of the building. The view was spectacular. You could see for miles on all sides of the building. To this day, if I go out on the observation deck of taller buildings, I still think of that day on top of the Southland Life Building. It was as though Imwas on top of the world.

    Everyone our age remembers where they were the day President Kennedy was shot. I was at school getting ready to,go,to,the Trade Mart to their the President’s speech. I was going to,go with a classmate by the name of Mike Levy. Mike was a stringer for the AP and he had a police scanner in his Corvair. We got in the car and he turned on the scanner. There was panic, chaos and fear coming through the speaker in monotone voices. We learned the President had been shot and was being taken to Parkland Hospital. We went back into the building and watched Walter Cronkite on the c;owed circuit system the school had. Then we heard the awful news and time seemed to stop. There was chapel service convened after the announcement was made. The headmaster announced he was sending everyone home. Then, that Sunday, Lee Harvey Oswald was kilted by Jack Ruby.

    The next fall, I left Dallas to go to college in Nashville. Despite the assassination, I have very fond memories of Dallas. I think of Sunday dinners with the family at Webb’s Chicken Garden, or going to the first drive-through in East Dallas called Charco’s. summers were spent playing sports at Tietze Park or swimming there or at Vickery Park, a funky amusement park with a large pool and the best sno-cones on the planet. Later on in life, I would watch my wife arrange “play dates” for our son. With my Mom, if it was sunny, we would have breakfast and then it would be out the door to,play with the kids neighboohood. I think we had it better.

    1. semitough Avatar

      Outstanding! Thank you so much for sharing. Great post.

      1. James W. Harris Avatar

        Thank you for putting this site together. I have enjoyed reading the posts.

  20. Dave Zoller Avatar
    Dave Zoller

    I’m a musician; I play keyboards. I played at the Keynote Club of Dallas in early 1972 with trumpeter Don Jacoby’s band and vocalist B.J. Wright. I left in May of the same year to work full-time at a jingle studio, but when that job ended I came back to the Keynote in July 0f ’73 and stayed for over a year. When I came back, the band at the Keynote still had B. J. Wright on vocals and my long-time buddy Dale Cook on drums. Saxophonist Allan Beutler fronted the band, and, from time to time, Bill Tillman would sub on sax for Beutler. Annie & Louis Byrum owned the place and Mickey Scrima (an ex-drummer who used to play for the Harry James & Charlie Barnett big bands back in the 40’s) worked the front door. The Keynote was a classic ‘meet market’.

    Oh, yeah, Nikki Menees, I remember you!!

    1. Nikki Menees Avatar
      Nikki Menees

      Uh Oh! Was I a real pain in the rear?? I remember you too Dave! Bobby Thomas and Jan, BJ and Bill, Annise and Lewis, Celia Nelon, Don Jacoby and both his sons and so many others were great friends who I learned so much from. Was a great time in my life and what an education! Between mobsters, cops, celebrities, great people and assholes I was fortunate to learn so much about life and people. It really was a weird and wonderful time in history!

    2. Ron Chapman Avatar
      Ron Chapman

      Hello, Dave Zoller. Amazes to hear from you again. Saw you most “recently” when you were on jury duty. Years before that, at SMU.

  21. Gary Avatar
    Gary

    What was the name of the bar close to Sneaky Pete’s. They didn’t have live bands. Just a jukebox. It’s killing me that I can’t remember it. Sucks being old. Help?!

    1. semitough Avatar

      The only other bar I remember there was the Abbey Inn. Is that it?

      1. Gary Avatar
        Gary

        Yes! Thanx!

    2. Donna Stanford Avatar
      Donna Stanford

      Was it the Caboose at one end and Abbey Inn at the other end?

      1. Vincent Corroo Avatar
        Vincent Corroo

        Caboose on one end and Sneaky Peats at the other end. Across the parking lot from the Beashou? Down the street from the Agoura Ball room ( Paladum)?

    3. Donna Avatar
      Donna

      it was Abby Inn on one end and The Caboose at the other end!

  22. Douglas Klug Avatar
    Douglas Klug

    can anyone contact me about people at keynote im in LA now worked with betty white platters i was drummer at keynote drummerdoug2009@yahoo.com

  23. June Davidson McGuire Avatar
    June Davidson McGuire

    I have two entries..
    What was the name of the small dance club behind some buildings just east of Central off Mockingbird where we would go and there was always this cool older man dancing the push in a fedora…the bands signature song was “ Cherry Pie”
    The other…I had an upright piano in my bedroom when I was in the 4th grade at Hockaday. It was obvious to my mother that I had lost interest in piano when I mainly played it for baby chicks and chameleons from the State Fair to dance around on top. So she put an ad in the paper and was contacted by a man named Jack Ruby who owned a night club where the “Cell Block Seven” played. I came home from school one day and he was sitting in the library with my mother. She introduced him to me and said he was interested in buying my piano. “but Mr Ruby” my mother said…”There may be a few keys out of tune”. “Oh that don’t matter Missus, the piano the boys are playing now are missing a few keys !”
    The sale was finalized and Jack asked my mother to come to the club and see my piano in action. She declined as that was not something my father would have wanted to do! but then reconsidered knowing she could go with my older step brother and his wife.
    The night came, my mother , step brother and sister-in-law entered the club . Mr Ruby set them at a nice table and then asked my mother to dance. She declined but my step brother encouraged her to accept and as she rose from the table, Jack Ruby took off the pistol he was packing , laid it on their table and waltzed away with my mom. It was a first for her.

  24. Vincent Corroo Avatar
    Vincent Corroo

    On second thought, I think Abby Inn was on the left a d the Caboose was on the right. Across from Medallion Theater. Sneaky Pete’s was somewhere else. Maybe up the road from Mother Blues? I wish I could remember. I do remember going to see Lightning and Bugs Henderson ,maybe at Sneaky Pete’s. Those were great times.

  25. Barry Avatar
    Barry

    My name is Barry Smith.
    I was a young man in the early 70’s that had just moved to Dallas from Austin..
    Had a new job working for TABC.. I lived a few blocks away from the Key Note Club (Oak Lawn/Cedar Springs).. the owner’s name was Anniece Byrum..
    I used to frequent her Club because it was close to home… and I was a new kid in town… Anniece was very good to me… waitress named Peggy waited on me! Barry…512.767.8335

  26. Tracy edwards Avatar
    Tracy edwards

    I lived in Dallas from 1985-1991. For years, I have been trying to think of a bar that was kind of down by Harry Hines, but maybe in a bad part of town where all the motels were that you could rent by the hour. it was really like a concert venue, but it was tiny and it was kind of a dump, but we saw Terence Trent D’Arby there in 1985 or 86 and I have tried to think of the name of that place for 20 years. Maybe it wasn’t Harry Hines, but it was pretty far out on a road kind of where all the wholesale places were and maybe a jewelry place called Sam Moon. Hope someone can come up with a name. Tony Dorsett was at that concert that night. I loved, loved, loved living there.

    1. semitough Avatar

      Poor David’s Pub?

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